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Alexander Scott and Katharine Forbes



Husband Alexander Scott 1

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       Marriage: 1807 1




Wife Katharine Forbes 1

           Born: 1784 1
     Christened: 
           Died: 1855 - Sp 1
         Buried: 


         Father: John Forbes (1758-1824) 1
         Mother: Katherine Morison (1757-1832) 1





William Wellesley-Pole and Katherine Elizabeth Forbes



Husband William Wellesley-Pole 2 3

           Born: 20 May 1763 - Dangan Castle
     Christened: 
           Died: 22 Feb 1845 - Grosvenor Square, London
         Buried:  - Grosvenor Chapel, South Audley St, London


         Father: Garret Of Mornington Wellesley Earl (1735-1781) 1 2 3 4
         Mother: Anne Hill Hon. (1742-1831) 1 2 3 4


       Marriage: 17 May 1784 - Savile Row, St.James's, Westminster




Wife Katherine Elizabeth Forbes 2 3

           Born: 1760
     Christened: 
           Died: 23 Oct 1851 - Grosvenor Square, London
         Buried:  - Grosvenor Chapel, South Audley St, London


         Father: John Forbes Admiral, Hon (      -      ) 2 3
         Mother: Mary Capell (      -      ) 2 3





Children
1 M William Pole-Tylney-Long-Wellesley 2 3

           Born: 22 May 1788
     Christened: 
           Died: 1 Jul 1857 - Thayer St., Marylebone, London
         Buried: 
         Spouse: Catherine Tylney-Long (1789-1825) 2 3
           Marr: 14 Mar 1812
         Spouse: Helena Paterson (1794-1869) 2 3
           Marr: 10 Nov 1828




General Notes (Husband)

1 UPDA 2 DATE 1842 2 PLAC Acceded:


Baron Maryborough of Maryborough 1821.


General Notes for Child William Pole-Tylney-Long-Wellesley

1 UPDA 2 DATE 1845 2 PLAC Acceded:


died in Povery.Baron Maryborough 5th.


Kathrine Forbes



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Wife Kathrine Forbes 1

           Born: Abt 1686 1
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         Father: John Forbes Sir Baronet (Abt 1650-Bef 1713) 1
         Mother: Barbara Delmahoy (Abt 1650-      ) 1





Leonard Anthony Forbes



Husband Leonard Anthony Forbes (details suppressed for this person)

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         Father: Harold Kenneth Forbes
         Mother: Florence Anne English


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Wife (details suppressed for this person)

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John Grant and Margaret Forbes



Husband John Grant 1

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Wife Margaret Forbes 1

           Born: Abt 1599 - Of, Oldtoune 1
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         Father: Arthur Forbes (Abt 1536-Bef 1606) 1
         Mother: Margaret Leslie (Abt 1536-      ) 1





George Sinclair and Margaret Forbes



Husband George Sinclair 1

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       Marriage: 1578 1




Wife Margaret Forbes 1

           Born: 14 Oct 1557 - Aberdeen, Scotland 1
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         Father: William Forbes 7th Lord (1513-1593) 1 2 3
         Mother: Elizabeth Keith (Abt 1514-Bef 1604) 1 2 3





Alexander Of Fyvie Meldrum and Margaret Forbes



Husband Alexander Of Fyvie Meldrum 1

            AKA: Alexander Meldrum
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Wife Margaret Forbes 1

           Born: Abt 1428 - Of Forbes, Aberdeenshire, Scotland 1
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         Father: Alexander Forbes [Baron] (Abt 1380-1448) 1 2 5
         Mother: Elizabeth Mary Douglas [Baroness Forbes (Abt 1385-      ) 1 2 5 6





William Oliver Moore and Margaret Jane Forbes



Husband William Oliver Moore 5

           Born: Between 1805 and 1834
     Christened: 
           Died: Between 1859 and 1919
         Buried: 
       Marriage: Between 1831 and 1874




Wife Margaret Jane Forbes 5

           Born: Between 1814 and 1837
     Christened: 
           Died: Between 1859 and 1925
         Buried: 



Children
1 M Riley Fremont Moore 5

           Born: 20 Aug 1856 - Decatur, IN
     Christened: 
           Died: 7 Jan 1941 - Lawrence, KS
         Buried: 
         Spouse: Ida Ferris (1862-1940) 5
           Marr: 9 Mar 1882 - Decatur, IN





Alexander Gordon and Mariota Forbes



Husband Alexander Gordon 1

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       Marriage: Bef 20 Jun 1561 1




Wife Mariota Forbes 1

           Born: Abt 1545 - Of, Pitsligo, Aberdeen, Scotland 1
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         Father: Alexander Of Pitsligo Forbes (Abt 1505-1562) 1
         Mother: Beatrix Abernethy (Abt 1505-      ) 1





William Forbes and Marjorie Forbes



Husband William Forbes 1

           Born: 2 Mar 1543-1544 - Aberdeen, Scotland 1
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           Died: 1592 1
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         Father: William Forbes 7th Lord (1513-1593) 1 2 3
         Mother: Elizabeth Keith (Abt 1514-Bef 1604) 1 2 3


       Marriage: 

   Other Spouse: Janet Forbes (      -      ) 1

   Other Spouse: Mrs-William Forbes (      -      ) 1




Wife Marjorie Forbes 1

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John Macleod Lord and Marjory Forbes



Husband John Macleod Lord 2 3

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Wife Marjory Forbes 2 3

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           Died: 4 Oct 1842
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         Father: James Forbes (      -1804) 2 3
         Mother: Catherine Innes (      -      ) 2 3



   Other Spouse: John Murray (1755-1830) 2 3 - 11 Mar 1794



John Murray and Marjory Forbes



Husband John Murray 2 3

           Born: 30 Jun 1755
     Christened: 
           Died: 29 Sep 1830
         Buried: 


         Father: John Murray 3rd Duke (1729-1774) 2 3
         Mother: Charlotte Murray Dutchess (1731-1805) 2 3


       Marriage: 11 Mar 1794

   Other Spouse: Jane Cathcart (1754-1790) 2 3 - 26 Dec 1774




Wife Marjory Forbes 2 3

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           Died: 4 Oct 1842
         Buried: 


         Father: James Forbes (      -1804) 2 3
         Mother: Catherine Innes (      -      ) 2 3



   Other Spouse: John Macleod Lord (      -      ) 2 3



Children
1 M Charles Murray 2 3

           Born: 1799
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2 F Catherine Murray 2 3

           Born: 
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           Died: 1796 - Young
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General Notes (Husband)

1 UPDA 2 DATE 1774 2 PLAC Acceded:

John Murray, Governor 1793-1828



John Murray, b.1755, d.1830, eldest son of John, 3rd Duke of Atholl, who had been the last Atholl Lord of Man before selling the regalities at the Revestment.

He believed his parents had been induced to sell the regalities much too cheaply and forced the British Government to hold a number of inquiries. The Island authorities strenuously opposed his attempts which in 1792 led to the visit of 5 commissioners who produced a very valuable report on the then economic state of the Island. The report backed the Duke's contention that the original purchase price was too low but pointed out that most of the revenues were due to smuggling activities. As a sop to the Duke the British Government offered him the post of Captain-General and Governor. Initially he was welcomed, possibly in the belief that he would rest satisfied and not push his claims any further. However he continued to push his claims and quickly lost any popularity with the native Manx. as Train (a fellow Scot writing in the 1830's) puts it " the maintenance of his private rights, by the exercise of his power as governor, in appointing to all the different departments, to which either his patronage or: influence could extend, persons connected with or depending on his family, generally to the exclusion of the natives, furnished a theme of jealousy and indignation for the islanders at large" or as the manx had it "Murrays, Murrays everywhere".

There quickly arose a divide between most of the Manx, led, it must be admitted, by a self-elected and increasingly conservative House of Keys, who opposed the 'grasping Murrays' and the non-Manx immigrants who appreciated the Duke's attempt to modernise the Island. In 1808 the British Government appointed Col. Smelt as Lieutenant Governor who managed to retain the trust of the Manx though generally despised by the Duke's party.

Major interests were in Scotland where he was lord-lieutenant of Perthshire from 1794 to his death in 1830. had a major interest in afforestation and was reported to be the first to have planted larch on a large scale in Scotland; on which subject he wrote 'Observations on Larch' published London.

John Murray built himself a 'palace' in Castle Mona and attempted to develop the tourist trade to the Island. However it was the appointment of his young nephew as Bishop in 1814 and the later's insensitive attempt to extract 6,000 pa from the tithes at the period when agriculture was depressed that finally provoked riots and the departure of both Bishop and Duke. Train's summary of him as "His grace was an active, liberal, and enlightened nobleman: he possessed considerable interest at court, which he uniformly employed in advancing the real interests of his Island" could be equally balanced by Callow's comment 'The Athol rule ended in 1825 A.D. Te Deum Laudamus."


John Leith and Marjory (Marjorie) Forbes



Husband John Leith 1

           Born: Abt 1565 - Of, Bushbornie 1
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         Father: Laurence Leith (Abt 1534-      ) 1
         Mother: Bessie Gordon (Abt 1536-      ) 1


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Wife Marjory (Marjorie) Forbes 1

           Born: Abt 1563 - Of, Oldtoune 1
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         Father: Arthur Forbes (Abt 1536-Bef 1606) 1
         Mother: Margaret Leslie (Abt 1536-      ) 1





Children
1 F Agnes Leith 1

           Born: Abt 1658 1
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           Died: 
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         Spouse: Robert Lumsden (Abt 1656-      ) 1
           Marr: 1644 1





Alexander Gordon and Marriot (Anne) Forbes



Husband Alexander Gordon 1

           Born: Abt 1532 1
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Wife Marriot (Anne) Forbes 1

           Born: Abt 1534 1
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         Father: Alexander Of Pitsligo Forbes (Abt 1505-1562) 1
         Mother: Beatrix Abernethy (Abt 1505-      ) 1





Children
1 F Katherine Gordon 1

           Born: Abt 1560 - Of Lesmoir, Scotland 1
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           Died: 
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         Spouse: Alexander Burnet (Abt 1560-1619) 1
           Marr: Abt 1578 1





Louis A. Lorton and Mildred Vivian Forbes



Husband Louis A. Lorton

           Born: 1899 7
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           Died: 1960 7
         Buried: 


         Father: John Francis Lorton (Abt 1878-1941)
         Mother: Martha E. Sarver (1879-1934)


       Marriage: 




Wife Mildred Vivian Forbes (details suppressed for this person)

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Children
1 M Roger Louis Lorton (details suppressed for this person)

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2 F Myrl Ellen Lorton (details suppressed for this person)

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3 F Betty Lorraine Lorton (details suppressed for this person)

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4 M Howard Bradley Lorton (details suppressed for this person)

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         Spouse: Faye Evans (living)



5 F Leona Faye Lorton (details suppressed for this person)

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         Spouse: Charles Yoder (living)



6 F Marcia Lea Lorton (details suppressed for this person)

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         Spouse: Larry Freeman (living)



7 M John Franklin Lorton (details suppressed for this person)

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         Spouse: Janet Sallee (living)



8 F Marilyn Jane Lorton (details suppressed for this person)

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         Spouse: Thomas Narrasaki (living)



9 F Sandra Sue Lorton (details suppressed for this person)

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         Spouse: Charles Elmer Crouch (living)



10 F Sharon Kay Lorton (details suppressed for this person)

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11 M Gary Lee Lorton (details suppressed for this person)

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         Spouse: Anita Kay Cain (living)



12 F Carol Ann Lorton (details suppressed for this person)

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         Spouse: Dennis Alan Buchanan Sr. (living)



13 M Charles Michael Lorton (details suppressed for this person)

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         Spouse: Anita June Yarnell (living)





Miss Forbes



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Wife Miss Forbes 1

           Born: Abt 1721 - Of, Buchan, Scotland 1
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         Father: John Forbes Glasgow John (1680-1716) 1
         Mother: Susannah Morison (1680-      ) 1





Miss Forbes



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Wife Miss Forbes 1

           Born: Abt 1716 - Of, Buchan, Scotland 1
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         Father: John Forbes Glasgow John (1680-1716) 1
         Mother: Susannah Morison (1680-      ) 1





Miss Forbes



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Wife Miss Forbes 1

           Born: Abt 1658 - Of, Blacton, Aberdeen, Scotland 1
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         Father: Walter Forbes (1625-      ) 1
         Mother: Helen (Janet) Forbes (Abt 1625-      ) 1





Miss Forbes



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Wife Miss Forbes 1

           Born: Abt 1719 - Of, Buchan, Scotland 1
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         Father: John Forbes Glasgow John (1680-1716) 1
         Mother: Susannah Morison (1680-      ) 1





Gilbert Johnstone and Miss Forbes



Husband Gilbert Johnstone 1

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Wife Miss Forbes 1

           Born: Abt 1513 - Of, Corsendae, Scotland 1
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         Father: William Forbes (Abt 1478-      ) 1
         Mother: Margaret Lumsden (Abt 1483-      ) 1



Noted events in her life were:
Alt. Birth 1, Of, Corsendae, Scotland, Abt 1515



Miss Forbes



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Wife Miss Forbes 1

           Born: Abt 1760 1
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         Father: George Forbes (1715-1794) 1
         Mother: Janet Keith (Abt 1715-1763) 1



Noted events in her life were:
Alt. Birth 1, Abt 1762



Miss Forbes



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Wife Miss Forbes 1

           Born: Abt 1790 - Of, Boyndlie 1
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         Father: John Forbes (1758-1824) 1
         Mother: Katherine Morison (1757-1832) 1



Noted events in her life were:
Alt. Birth 1, Of, Boyndlie, Abt 1786



Mister Forbes



Husband Mister Forbes 1

           Born: Abt 1707 - Of, Buchan, Scotland 1
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         Father: John Forbes Glasgow John (1680-1716) 1
         Mother: Susannah Morison (1680-      ) 1


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Noted events in his life were:
Alt. Birth 1, Of, Buchan, Scotland, Abt 1709




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Mister Forbes



Husband Mister Forbes 1

           Born: Abt 1654 - Of, Blacton, Aberdeen, Scotland 1
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         Father: Walter Forbes (1625-      ) 1
         Mother: Helen (Janet) Forbes (Abt 1625-      ) 1


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Noted events in his life were:
Alt. Birth 1, Of, Blacton, Aberdeen, Scotland, Abt 1656




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William Forbes and Mrs-William Forbes



Husband William Forbes 1

           Born: Abt 1527 - Of, Pitsligo, Aberdeen, Scotland 1
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           Died: 1566 1
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         Father: Alexander Of Pitsligo Forbes (Abt 1505-1562) 1
         Mother: Beatrix Abernethy (Abt 1505-      ) 1


       Marriage:  - Not MD 1

   Other Spouse: Katherine Gordon (      -      ) 1 - 1548 1




Wife Mrs-William Forbes 1

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   Other Spouse: William Forbes (1543-1592) 1



William Forbes and Mrs-William Forbes



Husband William Forbes 1

           Born: 2 Mar 1543-1544 - Aberdeen, Scotland 1
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           Died: 1592 1
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         Father: William Forbes 7th Lord (1513-1593) 1 2 3
         Mother: Elizabeth Keith (Abt 1514-Bef 1604) 1 2 3


       Marriage: 

   Other Spouse: Marjorie Forbes (      -      ) 1

   Other Spouse: Janet Forbes (      -      ) 1




Wife Mrs-William Forbes 1

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   Other Spouse: William Forbes (Abt 1527-1566) 1 - Not MD 1



William Forbes and Mrs-William Forbes



Husband William Forbes 1

           Born: Abt 1478 - Of, Corsendae, Aberdeen, Scotland 1
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   Other Spouse: Margaret Lumsden (Abt 1483-      ) 1




Wife Mrs-William Forbes 1

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Robert Levi Powell and Nancy Ann Forbes



Husband Robert Levi Powell (details suppressed for this person)

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         Father: Ivey Andrew Powell (1925-1988) 8
         Mother: Mae Stewart


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Wife Nancy Ann Forbes (details suppressed for this person)

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Children
1 F Angela Kay Powell (details suppressed for this person)

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2 M Robert Nathan Powell (details suppressed for this person)

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Patrick Forbes Hon



Husband Patrick Forbes Hon 2 3

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         Father: James Forbes [Baron] (Abt 1424-Abt 1460) 1 2 3 5
         Mother: Gille Keith (Abt 1424-After 1473) 1 2 3 5


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Patrick Forbes and Janet Gordon



Husband Patrick Forbes 1

           Born: Abt 1507 - Of, Karmucks, Scotland 1
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         Father: William Forbes (Abt 1478-      ) 1
         Mother: Margaret Lumsden (Abt 1483-      ) 1


       Marriage: 

   Other Spouse: Bessie Lawsone (      -      ) 1




Wife Janet Gordon 1

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Sources


1 June Ferguson Unknown, June Ferguson's Royalty GED.

2 Peter Western, </pre><a href="http://www.genealogydatabase.co.uk/tngsoonad.html">http://www.genealogydatabase.co.uk/tngsoonad.html</a><pre>.

3 Edward III Decendents.

4 ROYAL92.GED Gedcom file.

5 J. Feagin, Gedcom from J. Feagin.

6 royalfam.ged.

7 Christine Piper Feb 1998.

8 L. David Roper, RoperJr.ged from L. David Roper.

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